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alice02

10/26/2008
03:31:12
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Subject: s youtube the equivalent of a database

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I am using youtube to learn an opening. it is really good because it shows each move on a chess board.I think this is seen as a database so is legal within Gameknot rules. Is this correct?

alice02

11/03/2008
07:53:46
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plase answer my question

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Please answer my question. To see an example of the youtube offering google youtube Sicilian chess.

sodiumattack

11/03/2008
10:03:37
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Yes...

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... you are right.

I think the point of GK rules is not resort to aid from people/computers about a game you are playing at that moment.

If you ask Kasparov to comment a game you are playing, you are breaking GK rules.
But if you ask him to comment a game you finished, it's all ok. :)

leo_london

11/03/2008
10:13:02
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Perfectly legal. It is does not give you any unfair advantage in a game, less advantage than using the many online databases that are available..and legal.

It would not be my method of choice to learn an opening, but that's a different question. ;)

alice02

11/05/2008
05:21:50
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Thank you for the answers

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Leo I think youtube is wonderful. I have difficulties with the Gameknot database because i cannot figure out the names. e.g. it took me ages to work out that QGD was Queens gambit declined.

the difficulty with the youtube video is that sometimes it does not work. I was following jrobichess QGD very confidently for one of my games but suddenly the video stopped halfway and no matter how many times i played it I could not get it past it. So i am thrown back on my own resources and my standard of play has dropped abruptly LOL

sodiumattack

11/05/2008
09:40:17
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Why...

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... don't you consider to borrow or buy chess books?

I don't know what kind of videos do you watch on YouTube, but while learning openings the most important thing is understand what strategic idea is behind each move and nor GK database, nor YT videos can answer these question...

leo_london

11/05/2008
10:02:23
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Alice..Have you had a look at the Exeter Chess Club Site ? It contains something for everyone and is written in a humorous style..and its all free !
It wont compete with the specialised books on openings, endgames etc.. but I guarantee you will learn something new with every visit. ;)

ganstaman

11/05/2008
10:26:30
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Personally, I've never been impressed by jrobichess's videos as learning tools. From my experience, he doesn't present a broad enough view on openings and he misses out on some key explanations (or says things I'm not sure I agree with).

For example, he gives the moves 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 c6. He then says that he will explain the moves so far, but that seems to stop at 3. Nc3. I think that the move 5...c6 deserves some discussion (does he talk about it later?). Many beginners would be confused by this move, I'd think. It takes away the c6 square from the knight and seems to move a pawn unnecessarily in the opening. However, the pawn lends a hand in controlling the d5-square, the knight has other ways to develop, and it's very important for giving the queen an escape route after the nearly inevitable Bc1-d2 and Nc3-elsewhere discovered attack. Playing ...c6 is very good for queen safety!

Or take the Alekhine Defense. He gives the line 1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. c4 Nb6 4. d4 d6 5. exd6 exd6 as the only line. I play this defense a lot and I've never once entered this line. There are so many branch points (and not minor ones either!) that if they are not going to be discussed, a disclaimer to this effect is almost required.

Maybe he is helpful as a guide for starting off, but I've found chessgames.com and chesspublishing.com as well as various other sites I've found through google to be far more useful.

alice02

11/05/2008
10:40:43
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sodiumattack youtube explains

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youtube explains not only openings but defences against them. jrobichess in particular speaks and explains very clearly and the pieces move on the board in accordance with his explanation.

leo - thanks for the site. I read opening advice and Hort saying that time was more important than material. I didn't think it was that black and white.

Meanwhile is there a list of abbreviations used on Gameknot database and their explanations eg QGD = QUEENS GAMBIT DECLINED anywhere on the site

algol

11/05/2008
12:19:36
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Chess terms

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Alice, there is a list at

en.wikipedia.org
This includes often used abbreviations for openings such as KGA, KID... The explanations are themselves links to an overview of the particular opening.

The referred article contains many more terms than just the opening abbreviations, some of them quite interesting. I for one had never heard of Kotov's syndrome, but was too often a victim of it when I played OTB :-)

alice02

11/05/2008
23:57:44
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algol thank yoou

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thank you algol - now you have made me curious - i have never heard of Kotov's syndrome either:)

alice02

11/05/2008
23:59:42
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meant to add

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I looked up Kotov's syndrome thinking i was going to learn some fabulous new chess manoeuvre LOL

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